1 00:00:00,488 --> 00:00:04,488 I was abducted by aliens. 2 00:00:04,488 --> 00:00:12,489 These terrifying words have been spoken by people who claim to have had close encounters with little grey bees. 3 00:00:12,489 --> 00:00:16,489 Some of these greys have a very dark agenda. 4 00:00:16,489 --> 00:00:21,490 The greys are allegedly an alien species that have been reported countless times. 5 00:00:21,490 --> 00:00:23,490 I was going to the grave. 6 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:26,490 It's been going on for thousands of years. 7 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:31,490 There's multiple species and we have been visited multiple occasions. 8 00:00:31,490 --> 00:00:36,491 And this ancient relic could be the clue that aliens are among us. 9 00:00:36,491 --> 00:00:42,491 It can provide proof that is undeniable the holy grail of the field of UFO alien research. 10 00:00:42,491 --> 00:00:48,492 This is case number 96103, Greys conspiracy. 11 00:00:56,492 --> 00:01:01,493 The Greys 12 00:01:04,493 --> 00:01:12,493 We're finally going to get a chance to synthesize a real picture of the greys, not just case by case by case. 13 00:01:12,493 --> 00:01:16,494 But what's behind the cases? What's the common ground? 14 00:01:16,494 --> 00:01:22,494 If these beings are actually interacting with people, we have to meet as many eyewitnesses as possible. 15 00:01:22,494 --> 00:01:25,494 People who have had these experiences and get as much detail from them as we can. 16 00:01:25,494 --> 00:01:28,495 Where are all these stories coming from? 17 00:01:28,495 --> 00:01:34,495 And why does the image of the greys look alike from story to story? 18 00:01:34,495 --> 00:01:40,496 That's the most amazing thing. All of these sightings of greys are identical in the way they're described. 19 00:01:40,496 --> 00:01:43,496 I'll tell you why they look alike because it's straight out of a movie. 20 00:01:43,496 --> 00:01:45,496 Close encounters of the third kind. 21 00:01:45,496 --> 00:01:48,496 Oh really? Well then how can you explain this? 22 00:01:48,496 --> 00:01:51,496 Close encounters of the third kind is a 1970s movie. 23 00:01:51,496 --> 00:01:56,497 Betty and Barney Hill described that grey 1961. 24 00:01:56,497 --> 00:02:00,497 Betty and Barney Hill might have given us the first description of greys, 25 00:02:00,497 --> 00:02:04,497 but I think these are driven by the images that we've all seen in the mass media. 26 00:02:04,497 --> 00:02:10,498 There are thousands of cases of contact with greys. 27 00:02:10,498 --> 00:02:15,498 I'm struggling to deal with just extraterrestrial crafts being on the planet earth. 28 00:02:15,498 --> 00:02:18,498 And now I have to investigate the creatures that are actually flying them. 29 00:02:18,498 --> 00:02:20,499 Well you're just going to have to take baby steps. 30 00:02:20,499 --> 00:02:22,499 Yeah it's a big step. 31 00:02:25,499 --> 00:02:29,499 We've had descriptions of greys for over 40 years. 32 00:02:29,499 --> 00:02:31,499 There was the Roswell incident, 33 00:02:31,499 --> 00:02:34,500 outer limits, close encounters of the third kind. 34 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:37,500 There was the alien autopsy. 35 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:44,500 But the real description under hypnosis came from Betty and Barney Hill 36 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:50,501 who in 1961 claim that they were abducted by grey alien beings. 37 00:02:50,501 --> 00:02:56,501 This description was the foundation for all the later depictions of the greys on television. 38 00:02:56,501 --> 00:03:06,502 Large head, 4.5 feet tall, long skinny squiggly arms, thin legs, no nose, a slit for a mouth. 39 00:03:06,502 --> 00:03:08,502 Who are these greys? 40 00:03:08,502 --> 00:03:13,503 More important, why are they here? 41 00:03:13,503 --> 00:03:18,503 From out of this mess these grey beings came out with black eyes. 42 00:03:18,503 --> 00:03:25,504 We are in remote British Columbia, near the town of 100 Mile House. 43 00:03:25,504 --> 00:03:30,504 We're going to meet with Miriam Delacato to hear about her encounters with greys. 44 00:03:33,504 --> 00:03:38,505 It was October 19th, we were driving in northern British Columbia 45 00:03:38,505 --> 00:03:43,505 and all of a sudden out of absolutely nowhere these lights appeared behind the car. 46 00:03:45,505 --> 00:03:47,505 It was almost as wide as two lanes. 47 00:03:47,505 --> 00:03:51,505 We actually thought that they were a big truck or something. 48 00:03:51,505 --> 00:03:54,506 The lights started popping on and off. 49 00:03:55,506 --> 00:03:58,506 The girl driving started to get really afraid 50 00:03:58,506 --> 00:04:03,506 and then all of a sudden out of absolutely nowhere I said to her pull over the car, 51 00:04:03,506 --> 00:04:05,507 it's not you they want, it's me. 52 00:04:05,507 --> 00:04:07,507 What possessed you to say that? 53 00:04:07,507 --> 00:04:09,507 I really didn't know at that point. 54 00:04:10,507 --> 00:04:14,507 Miriam's story, it's very interesting but I find a little far-fetched 55 00:04:14,507 --> 00:04:16,507 because she was in a car with three other people. 56 00:04:16,507 --> 00:04:20,508 None of them saw what she saw, none of them experienced what she experienced. 57 00:04:20,508 --> 00:04:22,508 They just don't remember it, period. 58 00:04:23,508 --> 00:04:27,508 I was just about ready to grab the steering wheel because she didn't want to pull over 59 00:04:27,508 --> 00:04:31,509 and her head tilted to the side and she just pulled over. 60 00:04:35,509 --> 00:04:36,509 Did she pull over voluntarily? 61 00:04:36,509 --> 00:04:40,509 Something must have been guiding her because all of a sudden she became very quiet. 62 00:04:40,509 --> 00:04:44,509 Once the car was in the stop position, nobody in the car was moving at that point. 63 00:04:44,509 --> 00:04:47,510 Suspended animation is the way I describe it. 64 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:50,510 There have been hundreds of stories like Miriam's 65 00:04:50,510 --> 00:04:53,510 and the elements of these stories all match up. 66 00:04:55,510 --> 00:05:00,511 In front these short grays were walking towards me 67 00:05:00,511 --> 00:05:02,511 and they were about three and a half feet tall, 68 00:05:02,511 --> 00:05:08,511 with a little bit larger, bulbous type of heads with round black eyes. 69 00:05:08,511 --> 00:05:12,512 There was no features on them that distinguished one from the other. 70 00:05:13,512 --> 00:05:15,512 And then I start hearing a voice in my head. 71 00:05:16,512 --> 00:05:20,512 And it was, okay, get out of the car, do not be afraid, we will not harm you. 72 00:05:21,512 --> 00:05:24,513 My hand started reaching to the handle and thinking, why am I doing this? 73 00:05:24,513 --> 00:05:29,513 I got out of the car, they walked towards me and they took me by the hand. 74 00:05:30,513 --> 00:05:34,513 Miriam's walking to the UFO and she's actually guided by one of these grays. 75 00:05:34,513 --> 00:05:36,513 They actually hold hands. 76 00:05:36,513 --> 00:05:38,514 Did this really happen? 77 00:05:38,514 --> 00:05:41,514 What would tell me if it did or not are the details. 78 00:05:41,514 --> 00:05:44,514 The details would allow me to make some sort of determination. 79 00:05:45,514 --> 00:05:49,514 When you touched the grays hand, did it feel soft and fleshy or was it a bit more solid? 80 00:05:49,514 --> 00:05:57,515 It was solid. They were really cold and it wasn't like warmth from, you know, a person or an animal. 81 00:05:57,515 --> 00:05:58,515 It was cold. 82 00:05:58,515 --> 00:06:04,516 What would a normal reaction be to run for your life or pull yourself away from little beings that are dragging you into a ship? 83 00:06:05,516 --> 00:06:11,516 Absolutely, but there was no conversation other than, do not be afraid, we will not harm you. 84 00:06:11,516 --> 00:06:13,516 Which did actually calm me down. 85 00:06:14,516 --> 00:06:18,517 This is very interesting what Miriam is saying about the grays calming her. 86 00:06:18,517 --> 00:06:22,517 Maybe they have some way of doing this, perhaps telepathy is involved. 87 00:06:22,517 --> 00:06:25,517 They just simply took me by the hand, led me down the highway. 88 00:06:25,517 --> 00:06:31,518 When I looked up, I saw a very large craft probably about 40 or 50 feet across. 89 00:06:34,518 --> 00:06:39,518 And right at the doorway were these two tall blonde haired blue-eyed aliens. 90 00:06:39,518 --> 00:06:40,518 Nothing like the grays. 91 00:06:40,518 --> 00:06:42,518 Absolutely nothing like them whatsoever. 92 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:52,519 These short grays that had been with me just let go of my hand and I walked on board the craft with the two tall blondes. 93 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:58,520 What's the relationship of the grays that took you from the car to these tall blondes? 94 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,520 I would say that these grays were their helpers. 95 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:07,520 When you say grays, it's not just one species of extraterrestrial. 96 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,520 There are many, many different species of them. 97 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:17,521 What we heard from Miriam is that this species was obviously totally servile, almost robotic-like. 98 00:07:18,521 --> 00:07:22,521 There are multiple species of aliens visiting the planet Earth. 99 00:07:22,521 --> 00:07:26,522 This is completely new to me and I'm not quite sure what to think of it right now. 100 00:07:27,522 --> 00:07:35,522 We walked on board this craft and they sat me down on this chair and in front of me came a screen out of thin air. 101 00:07:35,522 --> 00:07:37,523 And then they started showing me all of these different images. 102 00:07:37,523 --> 00:07:39,523 What kinds of images were these? 103 00:07:39,523 --> 00:07:42,523 Images of catastrophes on the planet. 104 00:07:42,523 --> 00:07:46,523 Earthquakes, solar flares, war. 105 00:07:46,523 --> 00:07:53,524 And I was shown all of these different, what I believe is sort of like timelines and paths that humanity could take. 106 00:07:53,524 --> 00:08:02,524 And then I was explained how if we came together as a species that we would be able to avoid any and all of these events. 107 00:08:03,525 --> 00:08:11,525 I know Bill thinks this is normal. He's been talking to eyewitnesses and abductees for years, but to me this is pretty far out there. 108 00:08:11,525 --> 00:08:13,525 So what is the purpose of all of this? What are they trying to do? 109 00:08:13,525 --> 00:08:17,526 It was explained to me that they are the caretakers of this Earth. 110 00:08:17,526 --> 00:08:23,526 And that their purpose in being here is to help enlighten us, make us aware of who we are, 111 00:08:23,526 --> 00:08:27,526 and to make sure that we do not destroy ourselves or the planet. 112 00:08:28,526 --> 00:08:31,527 Well this is very interesting what Miriam is telling us about. 113 00:08:31,527 --> 00:08:34,527 The Grey is showing her pictures of wars and the way we're harming the planet. 114 00:08:34,527 --> 00:08:39,527 It sounds to me like they're bringing a benevolent message that they're trying to help us. 115 00:08:39,527 --> 00:08:43,528 It doesn't sound to me like these are aliens that wish us harm. 116 00:08:43,528 --> 00:08:49,528 I believe that some of these Grey's can be trusted and that some of them you absolutely should not. 117 00:08:51,528 --> 00:08:53,528 Are the Grey's here to help us or hurt us? 118 00:08:54,528 --> 00:08:57,529 The Grey's that I encountered I believe are here to help us. 119 00:08:57,529 --> 00:09:04,529 But there are several different types of Grey's and I know one in particular has a very dark agenda. 120 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:16,530 So how would you like to proceed tonight? 121 00:09:19,530 --> 00:09:20,530 Start on the table. 122 00:09:21,530 --> 00:09:25,531 I feel like, oh god, I'm so sorry. 123 00:09:25,531 --> 00:09:30,531 It's scary, it's very uncomfortable, it's painful. 124 00:09:31,531 --> 00:09:40,532 Bill and Peggy Foster claim that in 1996 in North Carolina they had a close encounter with extraterrestrial Grey beings. 125 00:09:40,532 --> 00:09:46,532 Furthermore they say that the Grey's abducted them and performed medical experiments that haunt them to this very day. 126 00:09:46,532 --> 00:09:49,533 I do see some of them grey-shaped. 127 00:09:50,533 --> 00:09:55,533 Witnesses and abductees really have no tangible evidence that they've ever encountered a Grey. 128 00:09:55,533 --> 00:09:58,533 So the best we can do is hypnotic regression. 129 00:09:58,533 --> 00:10:00,533 Deeper, deeper, relax. 130 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:04,534 And that's what we have. We have videos of Bill and Peggy Foster's hypnosis sessions. 131 00:10:04,534 --> 00:10:05,534 Deeper. 132 00:10:06,534 --> 00:10:08,534 I guess I shouldn't have tried touching. 133 00:10:09,534 --> 00:10:11,534 Something traumatic happens in these two people. 134 00:10:11,534 --> 00:10:13,534 I like the whole Grey. 135 00:10:14,534 --> 00:10:22,535 My life would have been 100% simpler without ever knowing anything about it. 136 00:10:22,535 --> 00:10:27,535 I wouldn't wish it on anybody. I just wanted to forget the whole incident. 137 00:10:27,535 --> 00:10:34,536 And if the answer to the question is yes, raise your index finger. Good. 138 00:10:34,536 --> 00:10:39,536 Bill and Peggy Foster both claim they were abducted by grey alien beings. 139 00:10:39,536 --> 00:10:42,537 They claim that medical experiments were performed on them. 140 00:10:42,537 --> 00:10:45,537 I do see some of them grey-shaped. 141 00:10:45,537 --> 00:10:49,537 We have the hypnotic regression sessions of Bill and Peggy Foster. 142 00:10:49,537 --> 00:10:54,538 This is exclusive to UFO hunters, right? This is something that we have access to. 143 00:10:54,538 --> 00:10:57,538 We're watching this for the first time. Nobody else has seen these tapes. 144 00:11:00,538 --> 00:11:02,538 Close to my face. 145 00:11:02,538 --> 00:11:05,538 This one's taller than the rest. 146 00:11:06,538 --> 00:11:10,539 Much bigger eyes. It's like looking into eternity. 147 00:11:10,539 --> 00:11:13,539 That's poetic. He seems to be describing a grey. 148 00:11:13,539 --> 00:11:16,539 I think he was describing a very profound experience. 149 00:11:16,539 --> 00:11:19,539 I mean, you're looking into the eyes of a being that's visiting this planet. 150 00:11:19,539 --> 00:11:21,540 I mean, that's you. 151 00:11:21,540 --> 00:11:23,540 What happened when you look at him? 152 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:25,540 Really relaxed. 153 00:11:25,540 --> 00:11:27,540 So what do you guys think about his description of the being? 154 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:31,540 Huge eyes and the being has a tranquilizing effect on him. 155 00:11:31,540 --> 00:11:36,541 Well, his description of the huge eyes obviously comports with Betty Hill's description 156 00:11:36,541 --> 00:11:39,541 and other descriptions that everybody has given of a grey. 157 00:11:39,541 --> 00:11:40,541 Huge eyes. 158 00:11:40,541 --> 00:11:43,541 The tranquilizing effect, what do you think? Telepathic? 159 00:11:43,541 --> 00:11:45,541 Yeah, it sounds standard. I've heard it before. 160 00:11:45,541 --> 00:11:48,542 Feeling calm through telepathy. It's what everybody says happened. 161 00:11:54,542 --> 00:11:58,542 We can't know their inner psychological states and their character. 162 00:11:58,542 --> 00:12:01,543 I mean, Bill seems to have been taken this rather well. 163 00:12:01,543 --> 00:12:03,543 He's calm when he's reliving this. 164 00:12:03,543 --> 00:12:06,543 And here we can see Peggy is very emotional. 165 00:12:06,543 --> 00:12:09,543 That's right. Just let them come. 166 00:12:09,543 --> 00:12:11,543 And I think this is the best example. 167 00:12:11,543 --> 00:12:15,544 This is the best evidence we have that something traumatic happened to these two people. 168 00:12:17,544 --> 00:12:21,544 Peggy cringed in terror at the alien's touch. 169 00:12:21,544 --> 00:12:25,544 This is in stark contrast to what we heard from Miriam about the benevolent greys. 170 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:27,545 And then I start hearing a voice in my head, 171 00:12:27,545 --> 00:12:29,545 Do not be afraid, we will not harm you. 172 00:12:36,545 --> 00:12:41,546 They're doing something to her that is denying her ability to control the situation. 173 00:12:43,546 --> 00:12:46,546 Listening to Peggy's experiences is very disturbing. 174 00:12:46,546 --> 00:12:49,546 It's excruciating watching this video. 175 00:12:49,546 --> 00:12:52,546 It sounds like it was a very emotional experience for her. 176 00:12:52,546 --> 00:12:56,547 Although we don't have tangible evidence of some kind of abduction, 177 00:12:56,547 --> 00:12:59,547 we don't have a piece of a grey or piece of the craft. 178 00:12:59,547 --> 00:13:01,547 This is the evidence here. 179 00:13:01,547 --> 00:13:05,547 A couple that has undergone some kind of traumatic experience. 180 00:13:05,547 --> 00:13:07,548 I'm afraid. 181 00:13:07,548 --> 00:13:13,548 I think something happened to them and we have to be open to the possibility that they had an actual experience. 182 00:13:17,548 --> 00:13:19,548 So here's what we know. 183 00:13:19,548 --> 00:13:22,549 Miriam told us the grey aliens are helpers. 184 00:13:22,549 --> 00:13:28,549 But from what Bill and Peggy told us, the greys are performing serious medical experiments. 185 00:13:28,549 --> 00:13:30,549 Some of them quite sinister. 186 00:13:30,549 --> 00:13:36,550 Is this a current phenomenon or is there evidence of contact dating back to ancient times? 187 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:48,551 What if there really was an extraterrestrial contact in the remote past? 188 00:13:48,551 --> 00:13:52,551 Georgiosuchalos is the publisher of Legendary Times magazine. 189 00:13:52,551 --> 00:13:59,552 He believes the ancient astronaut theory that contact was made and documented thousands of years ago. 190 00:14:01,552 --> 00:14:05,552 We have all these accounts of these beings that are centered from the sky. 191 00:14:05,552 --> 00:14:12,552 In fact, in the ancient Sumerian culture, those beings have a specific name, the Anunnaki. 192 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:20,553 And translated into English, Anunnaki means those who from the heavens came. 193 00:14:23,553 --> 00:14:27,554 Exactly, and there's the evidence right in the Sumerian cuneiforms. 194 00:14:27,554 --> 00:14:31,554 The big head with the rays coming out of it. 195 00:14:31,554 --> 00:14:33,554 It's this. 196 00:14:33,554 --> 00:14:35,554 Well, and the... 197 00:14:35,554 --> 00:14:36,554 Are you sure? 198 00:14:36,554 --> 00:14:41,555 Well, here we go again with Bill making the extraterrestrial connection without getting all the facts together. 199 00:14:41,555 --> 00:14:48,555 Kevin and I are trying to proceed cautiously, trying to separate anecdotal evidence from fact before we come to any conclusions. 200 00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:53,556 Well, I want to look at the image, the lines coming out of it, look at the cuneiform and look at that head. 201 00:14:53,556 --> 00:14:58,556 I mean, I just don't want to get all excited and go straight to this. I just need a little more. 202 00:14:58,556 --> 00:15:07,557 What the ancients describe as gods, beings coming down from the heaven, or actually aliens coming down from the sky. 203 00:15:07,557 --> 00:15:14,557 This has been referenced in every culture, in every folktale, time and time again. 204 00:15:14,557 --> 00:15:22,558 This here is a photograph of some figurines that were found in Africa. 205 00:15:22,558 --> 00:15:29,558 And these are ancient. And here we do see some sort of a similarity with the big slanted eyes. 206 00:15:29,558 --> 00:15:38,559 And the stories behind these statues always is in correlation with some beings that descended from the sky. 207 00:15:38,559 --> 00:15:40,559 You still don't really look alike if you ask me. 208 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:48,560 I think it's kind of obvious, but looking at these African sculptures, they clearly do not resemble the grays in any way, shape or form. 209 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:55,560 This one right here with the cone head looks very lizard-like. This is from Sumeria. 210 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,560 That's a little bit closer. 211 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:03,561 And over here we have some cave drawings that look very similar to something like this. 212 00:16:05,561 --> 00:16:07,561 Yeah, it's kind of eerie. 213 00:16:10,561 --> 00:16:17,562 Ancient cultures have always had myths and legends of beings that have been called gods, that come down from the skies. 214 00:16:17,562 --> 00:16:24,562 But what we need is real physical evidence that grays, which might be interpreted as gods, have actually made contact with humans. 215 00:16:24,562 --> 00:16:32,563 Kevin once proved, Giorgio pointed us to the Star Child skull, which many believe is the remains of a grave. 216 00:16:32,563 --> 00:16:36,563 The Star Child skull is a very fascinating find. 217 00:16:36,563 --> 00:16:45,564 We don't know yet whether or not this is a misshaped human skull or whether or not it is a hybrid being. 218 00:16:45,564 --> 00:16:54,565 Because in many, many ancient texts it is written that these gods did intermingle with our ancestors. 219 00:16:56,565 --> 00:17:03,565 During all my years of research in UFOs, the one artifact that keeps coming up is the Star Child skull. 220 00:17:03,565 --> 00:17:12,566 I've never held the Star Child skull in my hand, but I know that it was founded in the 1930s in a cave in northern Mexico by a teenage girl. 221 00:17:12,566 --> 00:17:19,567 It's been speculated from the shape of the skull that it's an alien origin possibly from a grave. 222 00:17:19,567 --> 00:17:24,567 Now that we know who the owner is, I'm excited to get my hands on it. 223 00:17:24,567 --> 00:17:28,567 This could be the greatest single find in the history of UFOs. 224 00:17:32,568 --> 00:17:34,568 I don't think we can put too much stock in what Giorgio told us. 225 00:17:34,568 --> 00:17:38,568 I mean, what we have are cave paintings of people with big heads and big eyes. 226 00:17:38,568 --> 00:17:41,568 That does not mean aliens have come to visit us on Earth. 227 00:17:41,568 --> 00:17:47,569 Well, you know what? I disagree with you about the cave painting, but more important than that, we have an eye witness. 228 00:17:47,569 --> 00:17:53,569 We have Miriam. Miriam said she was taking aboard of craft. She met the small grays, the large grays. 229 00:17:53,569 --> 00:17:56,569 I don't think she's making it up. I think she's telling the truth. 230 00:17:56,569 --> 00:18:02,570 The testimony of Giorgio and Miriam, in my opinion, it's not solid evidence to conclude that aliens have come to visit us. 231 00:18:02,570 --> 00:18:04,570 We need something physical. 232 00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:13,571 You guys want evidence? Melanie will show you the evidence. 233 00:18:13,571 --> 00:18:16,571 Hi, Melanie. 234 00:18:16,571 --> 00:18:17,571 Glad you came to El Paso. 235 00:18:17,571 --> 00:18:19,571 We've heard so much about the Star Child skull. 236 00:18:19,571 --> 00:18:29,572 Melanie Young is a medical professional who specializes in neonatal care, and she's one of the most qualified people to speak on human physiology. 237 00:18:29,572 --> 00:18:33,572 Wow. 238 00:18:34,572 --> 00:18:39,573 Well, this is the normal one that was found. 239 00:18:39,573 --> 00:18:41,573 So this is not the Star Child skull? 240 00:18:41,573 --> 00:18:47,573 This is not the Star Child, but this is the skull that was found laying next to the Star Child on top of the ground. 241 00:18:47,573 --> 00:18:49,573 Nothing unusual yet? 242 00:18:49,573 --> 00:18:50,574 No. 243 00:18:50,574 --> 00:18:52,574 But this is what's unusual. 244 00:18:52,574 --> 00:18:54,574 Oh, my God. 245 00:18:54,574 --> 00:19:03,575 So this is the famous Star Child skull? 246 00:19:03,575 --> 00:19:04,575 Yes, it is. 247 00:19:04,575 --> 00:19:17,576 This is huge. One of the biggest events since I've started investigating UFOs. Two skulls found together. One seemingly an adult, the other apparently a child. 248 00:19:17,576 --> 00:19:19,576 Do you know how old this is? 249 00:19:19,576 --> 00:19:22,576 It's been carbon dated 900 years old. 250 00:19:22,576 --> 00:19:23,576 Wow. 251 00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:30,577 This 900 year old artifact was allegedly found in a cave in the Copper Canyon region of Mexico by a woman living in a small village. 252 00:19:30,577 --> 00:19:36,577 Now I can't say there's a connection to the graves, but if there is, it's almost impossible to comprehend. 253 00:19:36,577 --> 00:19:46,578 The normal skull was laying on top of the ground with a complete skeleton, and coming out of the ground was a deformed hand. 254 00:19:46,578 --> 00:19:53,578 And so she dug up the deformed hand and found a complete skeleton. 255 00:19:53,578 --> 00:19:55,578 Where is the skeleton now? 256 00:19:55,578 --> 00:20:04,579 So she picked up both skeletons and took them back to the village, and they had a rainstorm, and everything got washed away. 257 00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:08,579 And the very next day, this is all she could find. 258 00:20:08,579 --> 00:20:18,580 In a flood, you would think that the heavier, flatter bones like the femur would have been left behind, and the lighter, rounder bones like the skull would have been washed away. 259 00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:22,581 But if you accept this story, the exact opposite happened. 260 00:20:22,581 --> 00:20:24,581 How did you come into possession of the skull? 261 00:20:24,581 --> 00:20:36,582 Well, a friend who got it from a friend who was the original owner of it, gave it to me due to my expertise in neonatal nursing and anatomy. 262 00:20:36,582 --> 00:20:44,582 When I saw it and told them that this is totally out of this world, they were like, take it. Don't bring it back. 263 00:20:44,582 --> 00:20:49,583 This is obviously extremely bizarre. Is it possible this is some kind of deformity? 264 00:20:49,583 --> 00:20:51,583 I've never seen anything like it. 265 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,583 How many deformities have you seen? Have you witnessed it as a nurse? 266 00:20:54,583 --> 00:21:01,583 I've seen every kind of deformity you can think of, and nothing looks like that. 267 00:21:01,583 --> 00:21:12,584 Some people who've looked at the Starchild skull believe that it's a human skull of someone that suffered from hydrocephalia, which is a disease that affects some infants which causes a misshapen skull. 268 00:21:12,584 --> 00:21:25,585 If it were a hydrocephalic, this would be bulged out, okay? But only one side would be bulged out, or the back would be bulged. It wouldn't be symmetrical like that is. 269 00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:31,586 So a hydrocephalic skull is asymmetrical, and this skull is symmetrical. 270 00:21:31,586 --> 00:21:38,586 It's completely symmetrical. If that were a hydrocephalic, the bones would not be connected. There would be no skull. 271 00:21:38,586 --> 00:21:40,586 What other explanations do you have for this skull? 272 00:21:40,586 --> 00:21:43,587 I don't have one. I can't find one. 273 00:21:43,587 --> 00:21:54,587 Now a lot of people might challenge this story, but we've come this far. I think we all agree that we have to explore the possibility that this could be the skull of a gray. 274 00:21:55,588 --> 00:22:04,588 Well guys, I mean, obviously this thing looks different from a human skull. It's big and bulbous and fits the description of what some people say alien grays look like. 275 00:22:04,588 --> 00:22:06,588 You know, I'd like to get some more information on it. 276 00:22:06,588 --> 00:22:11,589 Well, Lloyd Pie is our lead researcher, and he's done a lot of work with hominids. 277 00:22:11,589 --> 00:22:20,589 He has so much knowledge on different species and how the humans have evolved. He is the guy to talk to. 278 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:24,590 What significance is a skull? It's a UFO research. 279 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:31,590 The Star Child can provide proof that is undeniable, the holy grail of the field of UFO alien research. 280 00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:41,591 These very short beings came out that were probably about three to three and a half feet tall with black eyes. 281 00:22:43,591 --> 00:22:48,592 People have been seeing aliens for thousands of years, but there's never been a single piece of hard evidence. 282 00:22:48,592 --> 00:22:51,592 Now it's possible the Star Child skull is just that. 283 00:22:52,592 --> 00:22:57,592 We are here today with Lloyd Pie, who has worked as a military intelligence specialist. 284 00:22:57,592 --> 00:23:07,593 He has more than 30 years study in cryptozoology. He's the primary expert on the Star Child skull, having researched it for more than a decade. 285 00:23:08,593 --> 00:23:10,593 Why all this interest in it? 286 00:23:10,593 --> 00:23:19,594 I believe that it stands a very good chance of being the smoking gun that everybody is looking for, the holy grail of the field of UFO alien research. 287 00:23:20,594 --> 00:23:28,595 What I want to hear first is not only what do the specialists and the medical doctors think, but what kind of tests have been done and what exactly were the results. 288 00:23:28,595 --> 00:23:33,595 Could you walk us through the main differences between the Star Child skull and a normal human skull? 289 00:23:33,595 --> 00:23:38,595 The eye sockets of a normal human are about two inches, Star Child is not even one. 290 00:23:40,595 --> 00:23:44,596 There are no sinuses in here, no upper sinuses at all. 291 00:23:44,596 --> 00:23:56,597 And you turn them around, you notice that the chewing muscles that come up through here and spread out to attach your jaw and chew cover quite a wide area here with the Star Child. 292 00:23:56,597 --> 00:23:59,597 It's much reduced, so we have a much smaller, much reduced lower face. 293 00:24:00,597 --> 00:24:07,598 And there are fibers woven through the matrix of the bone which were found under a scanning electron microscope. 294 00:24:07,598 --> 00:24:09,598 Does this skull have any fibers at all? 295 00:24:09,598 --> 00:24:17,598 No skull of any kind of primate that we know of or any really bone that we know of has those kind of fibers. They seem to be unique to the Star Child. 296 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:26,599 Although I haven't seen a gray myself, I mean everyone kind of knows what they're supposed to look like. 297 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:35,600 A large head, you know, wrap around eyes, a small mouth and it seems like this skull would sort of fit in with that description. 298 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:45,600 If you turn around and look on the inside and you feel in here, you feel that ridging of bone that will hold the cerebellum in place. 299 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:52,601 With the Star Child, because it has such expanded brain pressing down that way at such a steep angle, 300 00:24:52,601 --> 00:24:57,601 we should have a spreading of the foramen magnum, but we don't. 301 00:24:57,601 --> 00:25:03,602 So we have a very different kind of brain in this skull, whatever it is. 302 00:25:03,602 --> 00:25:12,602 Now if you stick your finger in the foramen magnum hold to simulate a neck, right, you see how the human is there. 303 00:25:12,602 --> 00:25:15,603 So it would be like this, but the Star Child is actually balanced like this. 304 00:25:15,603 --> 00:25:18,603 So it's kind of like a misshapen golf ball on a tee. 305 00:25:18,603 --> 00:25:25,603 It's very different from the human neck in that it's half the size and it's centered up under the head. 306 00:25:25,603 --> 00:25:30,604 When you see how the neck connects to the skull, that's a closure for me. 307 00:25:30,604 --> 00:25:33,604 It's not a deformity. It was built that way. 308 00:25:35,604 --> 00:25:41,605 We've had the DNA of the human tested fully, fully recovered, no problem, normal human being, 309 00:25:41,605 --> 00:25:45,605 but in 203 we found that the DNA of the Star Child was very different. 310 00:25:45,605 --> 00:25:49,605 While we could recover its mitochondrial DNA, which comes from its mother, 311 00:25:49,605 --> 00:25:54,606 the nuclear DNA which contains the DNA of its mother and its father, we could not recover that, 312 00:25:54,606 --> 00:25:59,606 which indicates that there's something very unusual, if not completely different about the father. 313 00:25:59,606 --> 00:26:02,606 Where is the mitochondrial DNA from? 314 00:26:02,606 --> 00:26:05,606 All of our cells, we have cytoplasm. 315 00:26:05,606 --> 00:26:08,607 Floating inside the cytoplasm are little chips. 316 00:26:08,607 --> 00:26:11,607 Imagine them as raisins floating in a soup. 317 00:26:12,607 --> 00:26:16,607 Those little mitochondria come down from your mother. 318 00:26:16,607 --> 00:26:19,608 Is this the mother of the skull? Is that what we're saying? 319 00:26:19,608 --> 00:26:22,608 We have been able to prove that is not the case for sure. 320 00:26:22,608 --> 00:26:24,608 They are not genetically related. 321 00:26:27,608 --> 00:26:32,609 In the case of the Star Child skull, mitochondrial DNA has proven that the mother is human. 322 00:26:32,609 --> 00:26:37,609 However, nuclear DNA, it should have proven that the father was human as well, but it didn't. 323 00:26:37,609 --> 00:26:44,609 It was inconclusive. What this means is that the mother is human, but the father is simply unknown. 324 00:26:44,609 --> 00:26:51,610 Your knowledge, is there any reason why the nuclear DNA was not recoverable, other than the fact that it's not a human father? 325 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:58,610 If the father had been human, all indications are it should have pulled up very easily with the primers that were used, 326 00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:03,611 but it didn't, so we can only conclude that there's something very unusual about the father. 327 00:27:08,611 --> 00:27:13,612 Guys, I think one of the problems with getting answers to this skull is that it's obviously incomplete. 328 00:27:13,612 --> 00:27:18,612 I mean, a large portion of it is missing. The entire maxilla and facial structure is gone. 329 00:27:18,612 --> 00:27:23,612 I'd like to know if you would mind if we took this to Los Angeles and have a specialist reconstruct this, 330 00:27:23,612 --> 00:27:27,613 so that we could see what this person or creature looked like when it was alive. 331 00:27:27,613 --> 00:27:30,613 I would be as anxious to see what it would look like as you. 332 00:27:31,613 --> 00:27:38,614 The Star Child skull has an oversized cranium, which looks like it had a much larger capacity for a brain. 333 00:27:38,614 --> 00:27:44,614 This matches up with the alien that crashed at Roswell, which showed a multiple lobed brain. 334 00:27:45,614 --> 00:27:50,614 Now these are reproductions, of course, and the reproductions were done by computer, 335 00:27:50,614 --> 00:27:53,615 so these are exact reproductions of the real skull. 336 00:27:53,615 --> 00:27:54,615 They are identical. 337 00:27:54,615 --> 00:27:57,615 We have a normal skull, but we have a normal skull. 338 00:27:57,615 --> 00:27:58,615 They are identical. 339 00:27:59,615 --> 00:28:01,615 We have a normal and an abnormal skull. 340 00:28:01,615 --> 00:28:06,616 We need to check the differences between the two by measuring the volume of the brain capacities. 341 00:28:06,616 --> 00:28:11,616 We know that a normal brain is 1,350 to 1,400 cubic centimeters. 342 00:28:11,616 --> 00:28:15,616 There's a scientific test to measure brain capacity, and that's simply to fill it up with bird seed, 343 00:28:15,616 --> 00:28:17,616 and that's what we're about to do. 344 00:28:18,617 --> 00:28:19,617 Just pour some in here. 345 00:28:24,617 --> 00:28:25,617 Alright, that's enough for now. 346 00:28:28,617 --> 00:28:33,618 Here's Pat pouring and pouring and pouring. 347 00:28:33,618 --> 00:28:36,618 This is the bottomless skull here. 348 00:28:36,618 --> 00:28:39,618 He's not stopping. He's keeping on going. 349 00:28:39,618 --> 00:28:42,618 Okay, gents, empty your skulls. 350 00:28:47,619 --> 00:28:50,619 1,250 milliliters. That's a lot of bird seed. 351 00:28:50,619 --> 00:28:52,619 I don't think there's more bird seed in that skull. 352 00:28:52,619 --> 00:28:55,619 I don't think you can come to a conclusion until you've finished the experiment. 353 00:28:55,619 --> 00:28:57,619 That's real science, isn't it? 354 00:28:57,619 --> 00:28:58,620 Very true. 355 00:28:58,620 --> 00:28:59,620 Mr. Science Guy. 356 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:02,620 Okay. 357 00:29:02,620 --> 00:29:03,620 So that's 1,000? 358 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:04,620 That's 1,000. 359 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:06,620 And the rest is all gravy. 360 00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:12,621 Visually, from the outside, the normal human skull actually appears larger. 361 00:29:12,621 --> 00:29:16,621 So it's strange that the Star Child skull would be getting so much bird seed in it. 362 00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:17,621 It's more. 363 00:29:17,621 --> 00:29:18,621 Holy Nacra. 364 00:29:18,621 --> 00:29:23,621 There are exactly 200 milliliters more in the Star Child skull. 365 00:29:25,622 --> 00:29:27,622 Now this is a huge difference. 366 00:29:27,622 --> 00:29:32,622 We're talking about 15% more brain capacity here, which could completely bulge out a normal skull. 367 00:29:33,622 --> 00:29:37,623 With all that said, I'm still not convinced that this is alien. 368 00:29:38,623 --> 00:29:40,623 Why is this more brain material? 369 00:29:40,623 --> 00:29:42,623 There are a number of explanations for it. 370 00:29:42,623 --> 00:29:44,623 Not that this is an accident of nature, 371 00:29:44,623 --> 00:29:46,623 or not that this is a bird seed. 372 00:29:46,623 --> 00:29:48,623 Not that this is an accident of nature, 373 00:29:48,623 --> 00:29:50,623 or not that this is a brain deformity, 374 00:29:50,623 --> 00:29:52,624 but this was a designed skull. 375 00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:57,624 And that brain has more functionality than the accompanying adult skull. 376 00:29:59,624 --> 00:30:05,625 This skull exactly conforms to the Walter Reed Army Hospital autopsy on a little gray 377 00:30:05,625 --> 00:30:08,625 that they retrieved from the crash at Waswell. 378 00:30:08,625 --> 00:30:12,625 Now the difference is that this might have had three lobes because it has human DNA, 379 00:30:12,625 --> 00:30:15,625 but the Army autopsy basically confirmed this. 380 00:30:16,625 --> 00:30:18,626 It was in black and white. 381 00:30:18,626 --> 00:30:20,626 Black and white, black and white as in documents. 382 00:30:20,626 --> 00:30:23,626 It's been documented, there is proof that there is actually this autopsy. 383 00:30:23,626 --> 00:30:25,626 From what I've heard, it's just hearsay. 384 00:30:25,626 --> 00:30:26,626 Well, you're wrong. 385 00:30:26,626 --> 00:30:29,626 When Kevin challenges me, I love it. 386 00:30:29,626 --> 00:30:32,627 That's like, I'm glad you asked that question, because I've got the answer. 387 00:30:32,627 --> 00:30:36,627 They didn't confirm it, because the Pentagon to this day hasn't actually confirmed those 388 00:30:36,627 --> 00:30:40,627 of crash at Waswell, no less an alien tested at Walter Reed Army Hospital, 389 00:30:40,627 --> 00:30:42,627 but they didn't deny it. 390 00:30:42,627 --> 00:30:45,628 Not one refutation came out of the Pentagon. 391 00:30:45,628 --> 00:30:47,628 They never objected to this. 392 00:30:47,628 --> 00:30:49,628 And they never confirmed it either. 393 00:30:50,628 --> 00:30:53,628 Bill keeps throwing the Roswell story of alien bodies into this, 394 00:30:53,628 --> 00:30:57,629 but what exactly happened at Roswell, it's still much debated. 395 00:30:57,629 --> 00:31:01,629 Recently, Bill and Pat talked to a new eyewitness who claims that he was on an 396 00:31:01,629 --> 00:31:04,629 Air Force crew that cleaned up the wreckage. 397 00:31:04,629 --> 00:31:08,629 Well, I've seen some type of a terrio or metal. 398 00:31:08,629 --> 00:31:10,630 It was threads and pieces. 399 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:14,630 I think you guys are arguing over a skull that isn't even complete. 400 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:19,630 I think it's dangerous to extrapolate from something we don't even have a full picture of. 401 00:31:19,630 --> 00:31:22,630 So I think we need to go to Robert Lindsay, our visual effects artist. 402 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:27,631 He's an expert on skulls, jaws and teeth, and see what he's reconstructed 403 00:31:27,631 --> 00:31:30,631 based on what he has here from Lloyd Pie's skull. 404 00:31:30,631 --> 00:31:31,631 Let's go. 405 00:31:38,632 --> 00:31:41,632 On the heads of the graves, there are no ears, no nose, 406 00:31:41,632 --> 00:31:43,632 a very tiny, thin frail necks. 407 00:31:43,632 --> 00:31:47,632 The eyes of the graves look oval shaped and they're very watery, 408 00:31:47,632 --> 00:31:50,633 very deep and dark. 409 00:31:50,633 --> 00:31:56,633 The problem with the Star Child skull is that a good portion of the facial features 410 00:31:56,633 --> 00:31:59,633 are missing, as well as the lower jaw. 411 00:31:59,633 --> 00:32:04,634 So this will be a huge challenge to Robert Lindsay to reconstruct this thing. 412 00:32:04,634 --> 00:32:10,634 Robert is an expert on teeth and jaw structure and is now a Hollywood special effects artist. 413 00:32:10,634 --> 00:32:13,634 He's really going to have to interpret what was there. 414 00:32:13,634 --> 00:32:19,635 Robert's first step is to reconstruct the lower jaw from scratch to give context to the rest of the skull. 415 00:32:19,635 --> 00:32:26,635 Next he needs to attach the tissue depth markers to the skull to determine how thick he should apply the tissue under the skin. 416 00:32:26,635 --> 00:32:29,636 Now Robert will attach muscles and sinews to the skull. 417 00:32:29,636 --> 00:32:33,636 With all the flesh and the tissue created, he'll be able to fill in the eyes of the model. 418 00:32:33,636 --> 00:32:37,636 And lastly, he'll attach skin to give the skull a face. 419 00:32:38,636 --> 00:32:45,637 While Robert constructs the face, we need to determine if it's even possible for this type of life form to evolve on another planet. 420 00:32:48,637 --> 00:32:54,637 I'm really excited to meet with David Aguilar because David Aguilar has written a number of books for National Geographic 421 00:32:54,637 --> 00:33:00,638 on what's going on out there in the solar system and what other life forms may look like. 422 00:33:00,638 --> 00:33:07,638 We are talking to NASA, we're talking to the Origins of Life Initiative here at Harvard. 423 00:33:07,638 --> 00:33:10,639 We're actively searching for life in the universe. 424 00:33:10,639 --> 00:33:15,639 This really elevates our investigation to have a Harvard scientist weigh in 425 00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:20,639 and talk to us about the real possibilities of alien life coming into contact with Earth. 426 00:33:20,639 --> 00:33:28,640 We've learned quite a bit about aliens, grades specifically, and we really want to see how they can compare to how life could evolve on other planets. 427 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:35,641 What shapes, what forms, what evolutionary pattern they might take, boy, that's the big mystery today. 428 00:33:35,641 --> 00:33:43,641 We've investigated the Betty and Barney Hill case and one of the reasons it's so important is that they claim that when they were abducted, 429 00:33:43,641 --> 00:33:48,642 they were actually shown a star map indicating where the grey aliens were from. 430 00:33:48,642 --> 00:33:51,642 Why would they have added a detail like this? 431 00:33:52,642 --> 00:33:55,642 What about the star map that Betty Hill drew? 432 00:33:55,642 --> 00:34:01,642 When she was regressed, she drew a star map of where the alien on the spacecraft told her they were from. 433 00:34:01,642 --> 00:34:04,643 In fact, he actually showed her a diagram in space of where they were from. 434 00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:13,643 When Betty Hill reported where the aliens told them they came from, it was from the twin star system, Zeta Reticula Planix. 435 00:34:13,643 --> 00:34:19,644 I remember that. They saw the map inside the ship and they put it out there and it wasn't until later that they were able to go back 436 00:34:19,644 --> 00:34:23,644 and take a look and say, oh my gosh, this looks like the system they were talking about. 437 00:34:23,644 --> 00:34:29,645 But then, Bill, in the infinity of space, there could be a thousand locations that look just like that. 438 00:34:33,645 --> 00:34:40,645 We've actually contacted witnesses who say they've seen beings that have visited our planet and we've got some sketches here to show you. 439 00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:45,646 What do you think about that? Is that something that could evolve on another planet? Does that say anything to you? 440 00:34:46,646 --> 00:34:50,646 But of course, things are going to evolve differently on another planet. 441 00:34:50,646 --> 00:34:53,646 And there's no reason that we would have humanoids. 442 00:34:53,646 --> 00:34:59,647 I mean, the chance of finding humanoids that look like us, like you see in Star Trek, are so unbelievably small. 443 00:34:59,647 --> 00:35:04,647 You're going to get intelligent creatures, but they may not look anything like we would even relate to an intelligence. 444 00:35:04,647 --> 00:35:10,648 It is entirely possible for anything to evolve on another planet given the right conditions. 445 00:35:10,648 --> 00:35:19,648 It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to become the same shape and size and look as these grays were looking at, but it is a possibility. 446 00:35:21,649 --> 00:35:26,649 This creature comes from another planet, especially an M small red star. These may not be eyes at all. 447 00:35:26,649 --> 00:35:33,649 They could see in the infrared spectrum and the bright lights that we see on this planet could really mess with their eyes. 448 00:35:33,649 --> 00:35:38,650 So this whole idea here, I've always wondered if those in fact weren't lenses that were just blocking out light. 449 00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:43,650 The head is big and you're right, the big problem I have is you can't support it on this neck. 450 00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:49,651 These small little thin frail creatures look like they come from a world that has less gravity than the Earth. 451 00:35:49,651 --> 00:35:54,651 Because if they came from a planet with less gravity, this one would really be tugging on them. It would slow them down. 452 00:35:55,651 --> 00:36:02,652 They have less gravity. They'll grow a more elongated thinner. We know that as a principle, just of life on planets. 453 00:36:03,652 --> 00:36:08,652 Obviously the nose being so small and the ears being so small, these are not important senses anymore. 454 00:36:10,652 --> 00:36:12,652 If they've evolved this way, they've evolved without it. 455 00:36:13,652 --> 00:36:18,653 There are other senses that creatures use that we don't use. Radar with bats. 456 00:36:18,653 --> 00:36:26,653 There are fish in the octopi itself that sense its environment up to 90 feet away just by the electromagnetic waves that are around them. 457 00:36:26,653 --> 00:36:30,654 I mean, they could certainly have those types of senses. We simply don't know. 458 00:36:32,654 --> 00:36:38,654 Look at this creature. It's so thin, it looks weak. I can't imagine it doing anything, let alone abducting people. 459 00:36:38,654 --> 00:36:40,655 It doesn't have a physical presence for it. 460 00:36:40,655 --> 00:36:45,655 Maybe these are genetically engineered specifically for this task, this function, like robots. 461 00:36:45,655 --> 00:36:49,655 We just send them out like androids to do whatever they're doing. 462 00:36:49,655 --> 00:36:51,655 I could explain what we're seeing. 463 00:36:52,655 --> 00:36:59,656 David suggests that the graves could actually be a drone, sent long distances to perform specific tasks. 464 00:36:59,656 --> 00:37:08,657 This is a story that we've heard from many witnesses and this is exactly what the Walter Reed Army Hospital autopsy said about the Roswell Grail. 465 00:37:12,657 --> 00:37:18,657 There's no telling what could be possible, but since we don't have anything in our hands to look at and compare, 466 00:37:18,657 --> 00:37:23,658 I mean, I'd love to bring one of these guys into a real lab and have everybody take a look at it. 467 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:27,658 David, you just said that there's no evidence of extraterrestrial life right now. 468 00:37:27,658 --> 00:37:29,658 We think we may have something here. 469 00:37:31,658 --> 00:37:33,659 Wait a minute, guys, what am I looking at? 470 00:37:33,659 --> 00:37:38,659 This skull was found in a cave northern Mexico, was carbon dated to 900 years ago. 471 00:37:38,659 --> 00:37:43,659 Look at the eye sockets, look at the shape of the head, and look at the neck. 472 00:37:43,659 --> 00:37:46,660 I'm curious, any DNA samples from this? 473 00:37:46,660 --> 00:37:56,660 The mitochondrial DNA is human. They did the nuclear DNA test and could not sequence the father's DNA from the nucleus of the cell. 474 00:37:56,660 --> 00:38:02,661 Are you saying this was a cross with an alien or just a human with a terrible deformity? 475 00:38:02,661 --> 00:38:04,661 That's one theory that's a hybrid. 476 00:38:04,661 --> 00:38:05,661 Prove it. 477 00:38:07,661 --> 00:38:11,661 We need to see what Robert Lindsay has come up with regarding the Star Child skull. 478 00:38:11,661 --> 00:38:18,662 The facial reconstruction that he built may help us verify or disprove the alleged reports of contact with these great beings. 479 00:38:18,662 --> 00:38:22,662 Wow, looks like you've really done something to the Star Child skull. 480 00:38:23,662 --> 00:38:33,663 I had no clue as to what the grays want. If there's any benefit to us as a byproduct, they're actually here for their own personal agenda. 481 00:38:38,663 --> 00:38:45,664 We're at the Cinema Makeup School in Los Angeles, California, where we're meeting with Robert Lindsay, who's a special effects expert. 482 00:38:45,664 --> 00:38:48,664 He's going to help us reconstruct the Star Child skull. 483 00:38:49,664 --> 00:38:57,665 No matter what anybody says, this Star Child skull may be the key in unlocking the mystery to the grays. 484 00:39:08,666 --> 00:39:16,666 Robert? Hey, hey, how you doing? Wow, looks like you've really done something to the Star Child skull here. 485 00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:24,667 When I saw Robert with the Star Child skull, I was absolutely amazed. I thought this thing is truly a gray. 486 00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:29,667 What experience do you bring to accurately creating this face here? 487 00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:36,668 I'm a dental technician, so I know about jaws and muscles of the face that comes with a profession. 488 00:39:36,668 --> 00:39:41,668 That explains why he represented that facial expression the way it was. 489 00:39:41,668 --> 00:39:50,669 Yeah, there's artistic interpretation and he could go either way, but his background helped him create the way this creature's mouth looked, chin looked, and how its teeth met. 490 00:39:52,669 --> 00:40:00,670 The lower jaw is missing. The whole front piece is missing. I had to redo all that, reconstruct it. 491 00:40:00,670 --> 00:40:06,670 I'd be as closely as possible to what I think anatomically it would look like. 492 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:15,671 And the muscles are calling me no alien in mind. This is more or less what it would look like, feature-wise. 493 00:40:17,671 --> 00:40:26,672 When I first saw this face on the skull, I thought alien. I took a little further look and I saw a real human face behind there. 494 00:40:26,672 --> 00:40:34,672 And if you add hair, you change the skin tone, you put regular eyes in it. I'm seeing a human being with a slightly misshapen skull. 495 00:40:35,672 --> 00:40:38,673 This is beautiful, but it is your creative interpretation. 496 00:40:38,673 --> 00:40:44,673 Sure, you can never be for sure because there are many different variations that are possible. 497 00:40:44,673 --> 00:40:47,673 What do you think about the skull that you're holding? 498 00:40:47,673 --> 00:40:49,673 It's weird. 499 00:40:49,673 --> 00:40:51,674 That's an understatement. 500 00:40:51,674 --> 00:40:59,674 Because it's very symmetrical and you guys had the hypothesis that this disease... 501 00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:00,674 Hydroencephalitis? 502 00:41:00,674 --> 00:41:05,675 Exactly. It's not symmetrical like this and it looks not like an accident. 503 00:41:06,675 --> 00:41:12,675 I've been saying all along that this is just a hydrosophallic deformation and yes, it is symmetrical and that is unusual. 504 00:41:12,675 --> 00:41:15,675 But it can happen. It's rare, but it can happen. 505 00:41:15,675 --> 00:41:19,676 Can you offer up any kind of explanation as to why you think this skull might be shaped like this? 506 00:41:20,676 --> 00:41:25,676 The two opinions is either it's an anomaly or it's some kind of hybrid. 507 00:41:25,676 --> 00:41:27,676 Well, would you say hybrid? 508 00:41:27,676 --> 00:41:28,676 Yeah. 509 00:41:29,676 --> 00:41:41,677 When we first spoke to Lloyd Pie and he presented his theory of the star child, you get the impression that this was a cross-breeding between a straight extraterrestrial and a straight human being. 510 00:41:41,677 --> 00:41:45,678 But now that I'm seeing that representation, it looks too human. 511 00:41:45,678 --> 00:41:50,678 This could well represent a hybrid being bred with a human. 512 00:41:50,678 --> 00:41:56,678 Everybody thinks, oh, a hybrid is simply an alien plus a human, but it's actually not. 513 00:41:56,678 --> 00:42:08,679 Because some of the stories that we've heard are that the extraterrestrials interbreed a hybrid with humans through succeeding generations to create entities that look more and more human. 514 00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:10,680 So this is a hybrid of a hybrid. 515 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,680 Exactly. 516 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,680 Exactly of a hybrid again. 517 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:19,680 It could be a quarter alien, an eighth alien, a sixteenth of an alien, one sixth of an alien. 518 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,680 That's what you're saying? 519 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,680 Yes, Kevin. 520 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:32,681 It's enough of an alien that if they were taking over planet Earth, all they need is part alien because it's what's inside there that counts, not what's outside here. 521 00:42:32,681 --> 00:42:35,681 They're taking over the planet Earth, now we're there? 522 00:42:35,681 --> 00:42:36,681 That's one theory. 523 00:42:37,682 --> 00:42:38,682 Bill always has an excuse. 524 00:42:38,682 --> 00:42:40,682 He has a theory to explain what's going on. 525 00:42:40,682 --> 00:42:44,682 What we have going on is a skull that's looking very, very human. 526 00:42:44,682 --> 00:42:48,682 And of course he's going to use that to his advantage and claim, oh, I wanted it to be human. 527 00:42:48,682 --> 00:42:54,683 This proves my point that this isn't a straight up alien human hybrid, but it's generations beyond. 528 00:42:54,683 --> 00:42:56,683 So of course it's going to look human. 529 00:42:56,683 --> 00:42:57,683 Come on. 530 00:42:57,683 --> 00:43:08,684 Over years and years and years and generations of hybridization, it's coming into conformity with what they were looking for, given the design of this creature. 531 00:43:08,684 --> 00:43:13,684 And the plan for hybridization, this could be walking among us today. 532 00:43:16,685 --> 00:43:26,685 I'm not sure if we've proven that the Star Child skull is from a gray or if the gray is mixed with the human race, but it does give us a window into the world of what a gray might actually look like. 533 00:43:26,685 --> 00:43:27,685 It's an interesting concept. 534 00:43:27,685 --> 00:43:34,686 The thought of gray is coming here and abducting people and crossbreeding, but in my opinion, there's just not enough proof. 535 00:43:35,686 --> 00:43:43,687 I know that Kevin doesn't believe in grays and I respect his opinion, but Miriam told us there are multiple species of grays. 536 00:43:43,687 --> 00:43:50,687 Bill and Peggy Foster told us that some grays are performing medical tests on human beings. 537 00:43:50,687 --> 00:43:57,688 And Giorgio showed us that grays have been documented in every culture and in every era since the beginning of time. 538 00:43:58,688 --> 00:44:02,688 I believe that grays are real. 539 00:44:02,688 --> 00:44:09,689 I believe that grays are here and they've been intermingling with human beings for thousands of years. 540 00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:15,689 And the Star Child skull may represent a key piece of the UFO puzzle.